So, hey y'all! I hope everyone had a good weekend. Mine was kinda boring, really.
Friday night Mom-in-law kept the girls for the night and MrKB and I went out. We went out to Remington Park to the casino and had a pretty good time. Won some, lost some, nothing major. Had fun though. Was nice not to have to worry about going to pick up the girls before we went home. Stopped at a 24 hr Mickey D's to grab something to eat on the way home (it was 3:30a.m.!)...got home, ate, watched TV for a bit...then went to bed and had LOUD kids-ain't-in-the-house sex before going to sleep. If you have kids, you know THAT'S always fun! :)
My 9yr old nephew has been diagnosed bipolar schizophrenic. Things started about a month ago when he asked my MIL if he could start going to the school counselor. He said he'd had "bad thoughts" and thought it might help if he talked to someone. The counselor had him keep a journal, and apparently it came time to read that journal. He had written about being angry at different people, Mom, Dad, sister...kids at school. That in itself was not that unusual. He went on to talk about one kid in particular. This kid has apparently been a bully to my nephew. Things he wrote down were like "He makes me so mad, I just want to send him crying home to his Mommy! Because he kicked me, and I want to kick him back." He talks of another time this kid threw a rock at him.
Anyway, the part in his journal that apparently raised red flags was when he talked about trying to come up with a way to "get back" at him. He's also apparently been having thoughts in his head...an argument with his brain, as he put it...as to living or dying. He drew a little picture of what he'd like to do to this kid which showed him "squishing" him until all his blood came out. This was with a picture of the person he says he hears in his head telling him to do bad things.
Because of this, he was locked up in the hospital. Did you know that it's the law now to report this kind of thing to the police?!? The hospital told my MIL that if she hadn't consented to him being put in there, that they would've called the police to come and take him. Man....
MIL just called. She has signed him out of that place. They apparently were keeping him all doped up...on what, we don't know. She also found out that they were not supposed to be giving him anything like that without her permission. They wouldn't let her see his sleeping quarters. It was like he's being treated as a criminal and he hasn't done anything wrong. She wants to take him to another doctor (the one we take the girls to) and have him checked out and get a recommendation for someone else to treat him, as well as a second opinion on the bipolar schizophrenic thing.
It IS quite possible he has this illness. MrKB's brother was diagnosed with it just a couple years ago. It is hereditary, and family members of someone that has it are 3x more likely to have it.
It's all so sad the way things happened. Poor kid is probably confused as hell now. I guess with these days of kids shooting up their schools, the "authorities" probably figure better safe than sorry. I can understand that, I guess....it's not the same as when I was a kid in school. But anyone who's been bullied I'm sure has had their own thoughts of "getting back" at them, or wishing they were dead. I was bullied myself throughout most of my school career. I never would have tried to hurt anyone physically...might have thought about it, but could never have done it. But then again, I didn't have a "voice" in my head telling me to do things either.
I just don't know...this is all so weird! My nephew is a good kid and I don't see him hurting a fly. I guess you just never know. Does anyone out there have any experience with anybody suffering from bipolar schizophrenia??? What helps it?? How was it treated?? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Wow! I can understand the reason for what they did, to keep him from hurting himself and others but I'm sure it scared the hell out of him! They always say to trust a teacher and then that happens, I'm sure it could have been handled better!
Hey girl. I don't know anything at all about that but I do know that if you are hearing voices in your head it might be time to get a second or even third opinion. I mean I argue with myself (in my head) all the time but it's not a seperate entity and it never tells me to do bad things (unless I'm drunk. Then it tells me to keep drinking ... I can have one more. But I know that is just the same part of me only as drunk as I am.)
Good luck to ya'll doll. Keep us posted.
TG
wow, poor kid. He must be scared. Get a good Doctor, that is the best advice. *hugs*
Woo hoo for "no kids in the house sex"! Had some myself this weekend!
Your poor nephew. If he wasn't having problems before, he will now.
I think that they have gone too far over board by requiring everyone to "report" things. Since this happened through the school, now it will be on his permanent record. And he is only 9. Never consent to anything. If they have to ask then always say no. Then you can use your own judgment has to how to handle the problem. He will probably now never trust another teacher or authority figure associated with the school.
don't suppose anyone has thought to try explaining to him that yea sometimes we will feel this way about people...
ummm because we all do!
and yes i call my conscience a voice, i argue with myself all damn day....
the good part is that way i win.
i cry,...
the real wet tears
everytime i see this happen.
if i had answered their questions honestly
i can't tell you the list i would have been diag. with.
it's time for my scar update mama
thanks for the reminder...
that's tomorrows.
;)
It's awful to keep a kid all doped up. A second opinion is definitely a must, and then a thorough evaluation. I mean, yes, he probably does have a problem, but he also asked for help himself, which is a very good, responsible sign. I hope he gets the help he needs, but there are meds that can really help if it is schizophrenia, and still allow him to lead a normal life.
Haven't a clue here, but my thoughts are with you.
Sex...mmmm..... yesss... you're lucky the neighbors dinna call on you!
MrsCoach: I can kinda understand too, but I think they went overboard. Fortunately, MIL made it a bit less traumatic by telling him he'd be going to a new school and staying in a dorm. But who knows what he was told once he was there.
Tommy: I get that voice when I'm drinking too! LOL Thanks for stopping by and for the kind words, I'll keep ya posted! :)
Chris: Thanks so much sweetie! :)
Jenn: Yep, I did some "WooHooing" of my own for sure! Gotta love it when the kids are gone for the night. :) And I think my nephew will be okay, we just have to get this handled properly.
MCB: I know, I couldn't believe it when MIL told me it was the law now that they report him. For THOUGHTS??? It's ridiculous. I'll remember your advice when my own kids are in school. And you're right, he probably won't trust them again..I'd thought about that too! Thanks, I always value your opinion! :)
Heather: I think it all happened too fast for anybody to take time to explain anything to him. Poor kid...I cried too, it just broke my heart! Looking forward to reading your scar update. :)
Miss Jay: That's what we thought too, and you're right, it IS a good sign that he was asking for help himself. Wish the "authorities" were looking at it that way. Thanks for stopping by! :)
Possum: I'm pretty clueless myself about it right now, really...thanks for the kind words!
Wonder what we would've said if one of the neighbors had come beating on our door...LOL!
Kimberly: Thank you! I think pretty highly of him too, he's such a good kid. Thanks for your two cents, you are absolutely right!
And I wish the kids were out for the night more often!! ;)
Hugs, warm thoughts and lots of prayers for your family and especially the little boy...and thank you for your thoughts and comments over the past week.
have a friend with just bipolar - she doesn;t take care of it!
BUT
I am fearful fo rmy daughter. She is
... not ...
right.
My ex says he was diag as having bipolar, but again, he does not take care. Dtill drinks, drugs up and is an ass.
Sorry to not be help, seems now like I am just venting. But am worried about my baby girl - like everyhting, it helps to know a body is not alone ....
Yip... my 9 year old son has the same diagnosis... Contact me with what info you would like.
:)
mrst@mweb.co.za
Is it even possible to even diagnose bipolar (aka Manic-depression) at 9 years old? My 12 yr old son has a TON of issues, and one of the things they are looking into is bipolar disorder. He sees a therapist and a psychiatrist so it's something that is being monitored. There is no "test" that they can do....especially at that age. If I am wrong, I apologize, but from what I have read it's a process. Go to www.bpkids.org. There is a wealth of info there. I think it will be difficult for your nephew now because he is going to have trust issues. Just love him and let him know that he has some people in his life that care what happens to him. :)
We went through something similar with lil G. He drew a picture of his mother dead. AN automatic trip to the hospital. At first he was put on meds and all drugged up. We got him in a diffrent place...no drugs just talked to him for a week.It ended up there was nothing mentally wrong with him. He was just tired of witnessing all the crap that was going on at his mother's home. He now lives with us and is fine, no meds, he doesn't want to hurt himself or anyone else.I do take him to therapy once a week because he still has some anger about everything he went through.As for bipolar I think there is a blood test to see if he has a chemical unbalalnce.
that is rough finding out about your nephew, but at least they found out now and not years from now like my best friend. She did not know until she was 29.
I feel for your nephew. He must be scared as hell. I'd get a second opinion on that one!
your nephew is lucky he has the ability to verbalize what he feels and thinks, that truly is a blessing. Just keep loving him no matter what and supporting family..get 2nd or 3rd opinion. by the way it is a law for all educators, doctors ect. to report any kind of abuse or life threatening situations, or we can lose our jobs.
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